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twistedfate4u
06-13-04, 11:59 PM
Hey guys as many of you are well aware there is Microsoft OS, BSD, Mac and Silicon Graphics, distros of the unix kernel and then of course an insane amount. I’m sure many of you are like me who either work too much, or just aren’t motivated to do something you want to do but you can't do alone. Simply, and crazy enough, I want to make a group of programmers and together build the next step in the OS level.

Now the first thing that pops in your head, many people have tried, it either takes to long or it cant be done. Well to be honest with you, your write it takes a long time but one flaw with all Microsoft, Linux and yes even UNIX Operating systems are that they all run based upon the same kernel, except they modify it each time they make an update to the operating system including the software and so forth, (much more then that I know) Kernel has little to do with it)

My idea is to create a new OS that is developed with a kernel focused around four laug instead of one. C, C#, SQL, (which ill explain if your interested), and Perl. The os which will be layout in a desktop gui, still have yet decided will hopefully one day lead to the most secure desktop/sever os system in existence. I want it to be user friendly, making it easy for the user to access files without having a hard time and setting up stuff like local networks without problems but at the same time, have the security so many of the current OS systems lack.

For years, you all have heard of the common virus's that infect comp systems. Withier it is a virus, worm, Trojan, spyware, backdoor - like a Trojan or many of the other ways into a computer there all linked together and have not changed but slowly evolved overtime. So why do they still exist, if they there perpous is clear, especly if those who write them know the flaws in the system, and those who stop them obviously know the same as the ones who made the virus's in the first place. It is the greed, of companies like Norton and other anti virus companies who only do what a cold shot does, when they could easily do something as harsh as a Nuclear bomb. For those of you who do not use windows and get hacked through ports, by people spending hours guessing your passwords and then using a backdoor to make a new password, the answer has been laying around for many years. The ports that allow people into the system have programs called telnet, ssh, ftp and so forth. Well the problem is these programs are universal just about everyone knows how to use them against anyone withier there restricted or not, yet most servers still use them and yes I know its mainly because most schools teach them.

There are some things we as programmers can do that can change how things can work, and make a better os. I know many of us see the flaws and have ideas on how to fix them, but as one person its almost impossible. So my idea is to form a group together to make what no one has done before.

Please email me if your interested, withier people get involved by doing this we can all learn a lot. Peace

daisycutter
06-21-04, 11:05 PM
Yeah I am interested but you realise this is a huge project or many other people would have done it themselves. Some more things to think about is that it canno tbe done in c# because that is a microsoft specific language. Here are some things we would have to make:

Graphics library like DirectX or OpenGL
Sockets Version like Winsock or Berkley
Built in Firewalls/Antivirus
New Internet Browser made from scratch
An API like WIn32 so that people can make programs for it.

And many others anyway I hope to join you as long as we can workout how to tackle these things.

Coop
06-24-04, 04:35 PM
I'd love to help, I'm not sure if you would be able to use C++ for this or not?

daisycutter
06-25-04, 01:24 AM
Yes you can use C++ but it would be easier and more powerful if you used C. We also need someone who knows ASM or some kind of Assembaly language so that you can make a boot loader. try visiting how-to.tk on some tutorials and info on making an OS